Hoth: Blood and Ice

Anti heroes are lame. Anti-villains are where it's at. I think most is probably known about him already, but since there won't be a return for him, ask anything.

Can't remember if I ever asked you about the Deathwrights? Did you make them up or are they a part of Star Wars somewhere? Either way I thought it was a cool background.

So, which girl is going Jedi again?

Neither. Zeno was open to Opila doing so, but I storywise assumed Ziandra would have convinced her to stay among the Paladins so she can inherit the house. She'd be working with Kasha to kill their grandfather and allow Kasha to take Deathwright.

Much love for the Korriban class of whenever we graduated.

I’ve enjoyed seeing the change over time in Zeno. I remember him getting so mad at Jun-tsu’s choice back in the day. Now he keeps the anger more caged, but always burning.

Zeno also was one of very few Alderaanian folks who liked Delmi. Was grateful for your presence in every game you were in.

Does Zeno survive the war?

Hey, thanks for the threads. It was great to see Zeno again. He's always good fun and it's been cool to see how he's changed over time.

Zeno is my mentor and it has been fun to have him help Nudie navigate the battlefield of love for the past two games.

It was pretty coo to see Zeno again and changed a lot from before. I must have missed out on a lot of stuff that happened to Zeno on Alderaan.

Katarzyna Panteer wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:47 pm

Does Zeno survive the war?

He does. But he doesn't survive too much longer after. Being on the front lines has mathematically/mechanically become less effective for him than just hanging out with command staff. He may have only personally gotten 3 successes in the mass battle event, but he boosted contributions of others by more than 30, and only half he available BM targets were actually used. And he gets to do that at planetary scale range.

But then after the war, and when his girls are ready to take on their grandfather, he's going to do the ritual Zash did on Korriban but in reverse, imparting his strength to them at the cost of his own existence. Won't even be an echo of him left in the force. Though in that time he'll probably make a Holocron just so his family can still talk to him if they want a reminder.

Luth Khalan wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:59 pm

Hey, thanks for the threads. It was great to see Zeno again. He's always good fun and it's been cool to see how he's changed over time.

I wish I could have gotten more in, particularly on the last days, but RL is a giant weight on my shoulders right now. He still does love her, but it's not the same anymore, just another thing that changed.

Nudimsu wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:02 pm

Zeno is my mentor and it has been fun to have him help Nudie navigate the battlefield of love for the past two games.

Did you get the XP breaks on force powers for him being your mentor? Been great getting to know Nudi. He'll keep referring to your full name and it'll keep getting better. He's turned Cheunh into a hobby.

Remmington Balmung wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:22 am

It was pretty coo to see Zeno again and changed a lot from before. I must have missed out on a lot of stuff that happened to Zeno on Alderaan.

Zeno's biggest shift was his daughters being born while living in a peaceful world. His goal shifted from aggressive, desire to win everything to a jealous and agressive desire to see his daughters become whatever they want and loving them in the deepest way he can. The only part of the Sith code that still resonates is "Peace is a lie, there is only passion." If Remmington had been an NPC though, he likely would have tried to kill him and left the body on Jun-Tsu's doorstep. But as a player, that would have been lame to do to him and would have hurt the story.

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Another thing to mention: while it may seem weird for the light side granddaughter to kill grandpa, this is a Sith Lord that commanded and succeeded at planetary genocide and erased all trace of his rival faction's existence. They're doing the galaxy a favor.

The moment of the biggest satisfaction?

The biggest regret, now that everything is set and done?

The most unnerving unfinished business?

The biggest self-inflicted facepalm that made curses fly?

The biggest WTF/screen-spitting moment?

These are mostly two different answers between me and Zeno. So I'll answer for me first and Zeno second. For the entire career of Zeno.

Darth Bellious wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:07 am

1) The moment of the biggest satisfaction?
2) The biggest regret, now that everything is set and done?
3) The most unnerving unfinished business?
4) The biggest self-inflicted facepalm that made curses fly?
5) The biggest WTF/screen-spitting moment?

Me:
1) Coming out of Korriban as a lord. Didn't expect to do so well there honestly. Had a lot of help, but that was exciting.
2) Same as every game. I tend to avoid interaction with GM IC because I don't want to burden them. I was significantly less involved in most plotlines because of that.
3) Took too long to try to take on Zash, but by the time I could everyone had changed so much IC that it would be silly to pursue it.
4) Every big fight, because everytime I basically got steamrolled or had to flee because I still don't have the mindset for this rules system.
5) Having not thought about it before, Riss apparently considering Zeno to be a"better" person than Syl. Makes sense given the relationships and ger being unfamiliar with him, but I was surprised. Especially since it is so far from the truth of Zeno and Syl. Simultaneously WTF and LOL.

Zeno:
1) The birth of his daughters. He has not and will never be as happy as he was that day.
2) No Regerts tattoo. Zeno doesn't regret. He might feel it in the moment or for a day or two after, but he lets regrets go relatively quickly.
3) That he didn't just kill Jun-Tsu. He believes the empire is being ruled by the void engine and that is a pretty big part of why he doesn't go back. He suspects it'll be a repeat of Vitiate eventually.
4) Rushing in to Death's Shadow solo the first time.
5) Ulgo trying to murder his family. He still wants to have that man in a cell on Thul estates, to keep him as a pet so that he can torture him constantly.